unique death normalization improvements

[bhaak]

Look at the proposed unique death normalization from these two posts:
http://mathematicalcoffee.blogspot.com.au/2014/07/junethack-2014-is-over.html http://74.135.83.0:8018/nethack-stuff/junethack-unique-deaths-comments-2014-jonadab.html

[tsadok]

My IP address changed, so that second URL should now be http://jonadab.jumpingcrab.com:8018/nethack-stuff/junethack-unique-deaths-comments-2014-jonadab.html

[mathematicalcoffee]

FYI #48 pull request implements some of the widely-agreed-upon death normalisations.

[FredrIQ]

Minions of deities can be polymorphed, this is not taken into account since the list is hardcoded. I suggest hardcoding deity names instead, which would also catch aligned/high priests.

[RojjaCebolla]

Some death messages seem to lack a right paren, perhaps it should be made optional in the relevant regex?

slipped while mounting a monster (a saddled speedhorse
killed by a monster (Tasmanian devil

[actual-nh]

Are things like "moderately wounded" ("killed by a moderately wounded goblin"), "seriously wounded", and "uninjured" supposed to be removed for unique deaths?

[bhaak]

Vanilla has removed the wounded state from the death message for the time being and I think every variant that had it before has upgraded already.
So there's is currently no pressing issue to look at that. But I guess it should be removed if it ever comes back. Otherwise you just have uncesseray grinding.

[actual-nh]

Vanilla has removed the wounded state from the death message for the time being and I think every variant that had it before has upgraded already.
So there's is currently no pressing issue to look at that.

I was quoting from the current Junethack "unique deaths" listing, so there's at least one version still putting it in. (There aren't very many so far, but it's only June 2nd...)

But I guess it should be removed if it ever comes back. Otherwise you just have uncesseray grinding.

Agreed.

[actual-nh]

There are also a few cases in the current listing where the trimming seems to have gone a bit too far:

9 | imp
9 | killed by a fox
9 | orc

Additional ones include demon, hobgoblin, rock mole... here's part of the listing from OrderOfTheCockatrice (highest unique deaths by the current definition):

burning scroll
centaur
demon
dragon
drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel
escaped
falling object
giant ant
hobgoblin
homunculus
imp

[bhaak]

There are also a few cases in the current listing where the trimming seems to have gone a bit too far:

No, those are from 1.3d games: https://junethack.net/server/hdf_13d

This old version of NetHack didn't specify how the monster killed you.

[actual-nh]

There are also a few cases in the current listing where the trimming seems to have gone a bit too far:

No, those are from 1.3d games: https://junethack.net/server/hdf_13d

This old version of NetHack didn't specify how the monster killed you.

OK; changing such to "killed by [a|an] " would be nice in the long run. (Any idea what version still has wounded state?) EDIT: Changed my mind re reformatting 1.3d death methods; I suggest keeping them this way to act as an incentive to play that version...

[bhaak]

Without checking the code, I'm pretty sure that the wounded descriptions were a 3.7 thing.
xNetHack is the only variant that follows 3.7 closely, so it's probably from that.

But that also means I still have to fix that.

[actual-nh]

I can work on it. EDIT: See #72.

[RojjaCebolla]

object materials are also showing up in deaths. harder but not impossible to grind

https://imgur.com/2qwRQZK.png

[actual-nh]

object materials are also showing up in deaths. harder but not impossible to grind

https://imgur.com/2qwRQZK.png

Should silver be removed? EDIT: As well as bone (except bone devil), wooden, steel (except steel golem), iron (except iron golem), and gold (except gold golem)?

[actual-nh]

"poisoned by" -> "killed by":

1 | poisoned by Pestilence (with the Amulet)
1 | poisoned by a bone orcish arrow
1 | poisoned by a giant mosquito
1 | poisoned by a killer bee
1 | poisoned by a little dart
1 | poisoned by a noxious patch
1 | poisoned by a quasit

EDIT: This will also be helpful for other fixes - note "poisoned by a bone orcish arrow".
EDIT2: I should be able to work on this also if I fixed the injury-related ones correctly.